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	<title>Comments for Nekohayo !</title>
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	<description>La vie personnelle du chat</description>
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		<title>Comment on Status update — new Pitivi timeline, GSoC projects, etc by antistress</title>
		<link>http://jeff.ecchi.ca/blog/2013/06/08/status-update-new-pitivi-timeline-gsoc-projects-etc/#comment-23696</link>
		<dc:creator>antistress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jun 2013 01:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;&quot;Mathieu Duponchelle killed our goocanvas-based timeline and redid the whole thing with Clutter. In two weeks&quot;&lt;/em&gt; &amp; &lt;em&gt;&quot;Mathieu is now working full time on fixing bugs everywhere in the stack. We hope to have something showable (beta) for GUADEC&quot;&lt;/em&gt; : Wow :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;Mathieu Duponchelle killed our goocanvas-based timeline and redid the whole thing with Clutter. In two weeks&#8221;</em> &amp; <em>&#8220;Mathieu is now working full time on fixing bugs everywhere in the stack. We hope to have something showable (beta) for GUADEC&#8221;</em> : Wow :-)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Status update — new Pitivi timeline, GSoC projects, etc by Mathieu Duponchelle</title>
		<link>http://jeff.ecchi.ca/blog/2013/06/08/status-update-new-pitivi-timeline-gsoc-projects-etc/#comment-23695</link>
		<dc:creator>Mathieu Duponchelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jun 2013 23:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is :) Clutter is a great library !]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is :) Clutter is a great library !</p>
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		<title>Comment on Status update — new Pitivi timeline, GSoC projects, etc by Alex</title>
		<link>http://jeff.ecchi.ca/blog/2013/06/08/status-update-new-pitivi-timeline-gsoc-projects-etc/#comment-23693</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jun 2013 21:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That timeline looks pretty darn sweet!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That timeline looks pretty darn sweet!</p>
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		<title>Comment on No more stuck rendering dialogs! by nekohayo</title>
		<link>http://jeff.ecchi.ca/blog/2013/04/28/no-more-stuck-render-dialogs/#comment-23653</link>
		<dc:creator>nekohayo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 May 2013 13:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hmmm... partly because
&lt;ul&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;I&#039;m not sure where to point to (distro bug tracker? Pitivi&#039;s bug tracker?)&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;Every distro has a different bugtracker, and they&#039;re usually where bug reports go to die&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;I don&#039;t know how to interface with bugtrackers, generally speaking&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;At some point if the user can&#039;t be bothered to copy-paste an error (which in itself is not sufficient: you&#039;ll need bug reproduction instructions, debug logs or backtraces, etc.) then what&#039;s the point?&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;Pointing to a wiki/website page URL is not really future-proof, might as well just say &quot;Visit the Pitivi website for bug reporting instructions&quot; at that point...&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

So yeah, the thought has crossed my mind but I&#039;m not sure how to handle it (and I want to keep the implementation relatively simple too :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230; partly because</p>
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<li>I&#8217;m not sure where to point to (distro bug tracker? Pitivi&#8217;s bug tracker?)</li>
<li>Every distro has a different bugtracker, and they&#8217;re usually where bug reports go to die</li>
<li>I don&#8217;t know how to interface with bugtrackers, generally speaking</li>
<li>At some point if the user can&#8217;t be bothered to copy-paste an error (which in itself is not sufficient: you&#8217;ll need bug reproduction instructions, debug logs or backtraces, etc.) then what&#8217;s the point?</li>
<li>Pointing to a wiki/website page URL is not really future-proof, might as well just say &#8220;Visit the Pitivi website for bug reporting instructions&#8221; at that point&#8230;</li>
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<p>So yeah, the thought has crossed my mind but I&#8217;m not sure how to handle it (and I want to keep the implementation relatively simple too :)</p>
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		<title>Comment on No more stuck rendering dialogs! by mdgeorge</title>
		<link>http://jeff.ecchi.ca/blog/2013/04/28/no-more-stuck-render-dialogs/#comment-23650</link>
		<dc:creator>mdgeorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Apr 2013 17:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The detailed error message is useful for two things: the user can copy/paste to file a bug report, and the user can google for help.  How about instead of making them do all that work, instead just have two big helpful buttons that do these things: &quot;File report&quot; and &quot;Find help&quot; or something like that? I would probably still include the expander in case there&#039;s something I didn&#039;t think of, but if you&#039;re going to go halfway and give the error to the user, why not go whole hog and help them use it effectively?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The detailed error message is useful for two things: the user can copy/paste to file a bug report, and the user can google for help.  How about instead of making them do all that work, instead just have two big helpful buttons that do these things: &#8220;File report&#8221; and &#8220;Find help&#8221; or something like that? I would probably still include the expander in case there&#8217;s something I didn&#8217;t think of, but if you&#8217;re going to go halfway and give the error to the user, why not go whole hog and help them use it effectively?</p>
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		<title>Comment on No more stuck rendering dialogs! by nekohayo</title>
		<link>http://jeff.ecchi.ca/blog/2013/04/28/no-more-stuck-render-dialogs/#comment-23648</link>
		<dc:creator>nekohayo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Apr 2013 15:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I tried implementing the use of the &quot;sad-face&quot; icon in a simple way, but the problem is that GTK Image&#039;s new_from_icon_name makes it impossible for me to know if loading the icon failed or not (because it will display a &quot;broken image&quot; icon instead, and the return value is always True)... and I suppose I can&#039;t assume that this &quot;sad face&quot;  icon would always be present on users&#039; computers (especially outside gnome). So I have three choices:
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Keep it as it is, with the default GTK error icon. We could argue that it&#039;s a theme issue and that sad face icon should become the default error icon for GTK with gnome...?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Try loading the sad face icon, but if it fails, it fails (no fallback to the normal error icon)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;del datetime=&quot;2013-04-29T16:04:41+00:00&quot;&gt;Implement something rather complicated and ugly for this specific case&lt;/del&gt; - not even sure that&#039;s possible&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried implementing the use of the &#8220;sad-face&#8221; icon in a simple way, but the problem is that GTK Image&#8217;s new_from_icon_name makes it impossible for me to know if loading the icon failed or not (because it will display a &#8220;broken image&#8221; icon instead, and the return value is always True)&#8230; and I suppose I can&#8217;t assume that this &#8220;sad face&#8221;  icon would always be present on users&#8217; computers (especially outside gnome). So I have three choices:</p>
<ul>
<li>Keep it as it is, with the default GTK error icon. We could argue that it&#8217;s a theme issue and that sad face icon should become the default error icon for GTK with gnome&#8230;?</li>
<li>Try loading the sad face icon, but if it fails, it fails (no fallback to the normal error icon)</li>
<li><del datetime="2013-04-29T16:04:41+00:00">Implement something rather complicated and ugly for this specific case</del> &#8211; not even sure that&#8217;s possible</li>
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		<title>Comment on No more stuck rendering dialogs! by Frederik Elwert</title>
		<link>http://jeff.ecchi.ca/blog/2013/04/28/no-more-stuck-render-dialogs/#comment-23647</link>
		<dc:creator>Frederik Elwert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Apr 2013 14:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, that is indeed better!

I would, however, second two suggestions:
+1 for the reformulation suggested by tim, and +1 for the sad smiley suggested by Ulisse. Both make it yet a little less scary.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, that is indeed better!</p>
<p>I would, however, second two suggestions:<br />
+1 for the reformulation suggested by tim, and +1 for the sad smiley suggested by Ulisse. Both make it yet a little less scary.</p>
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		<title>Comment on No more stuck rendering dialogs! by nekohayo</title>
		<link>http://jeff.ecchi.ca/blog/2013/04/28/no-more-stuck-render-dialogs/#comment-23646</link>
		<dc:creator>nekohayo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Apr 2013 14:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fair point! I think your first suggestion sounds interesting to me (a little bit less formal without mocking).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair point! I think your first suggestion sounds interesting to me (a little bit less formal without mocking).</p>
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		<title>Comment on No more stuck rendering dialogs! by Tim</title>
		<link>http://jeff.ecchi.ca/blog/2013/04/28/no-more-stuck-render-dialogs/#comment-23645</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Apr 2013 12:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How about &quot;Sorry, but something didn&#039;t work right&quot; or &quot;Something unexpected happened&quot;. &quot;Has gone terribly wrong&quot; might sound a bit alarming for a novice user (who might not understand that it&#039;s not to be taken entirely seriously and their data isn&#039;t affected).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about &#8220;Sorry, but something didn&#8217;t work right&#8221; or &#8220;Something unexpected happened&#8221;. &#8220;Has gone terribly wrong&#8221; might sound a bit alarming for a novice user (who might not understand that it&#8217;s not to be taken entirely seriously and their data isn&#8217;t affected).</p>
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		<title>Comment on No more stuck rendering dialogs! by nekohayo</title>
		<link>http://jeff.ecchi.ca/blog/2013/04/28/no-more-stuck-render-dialogs/#comment-23644</link>
		<dc:creator>nekohayo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Apr 2013 12:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I updated the blog post above with the screenshot of a revised implementation that provides a slightly less ugly and demoralizing text for users... let me know if that&#039;s indeed better.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I updated the blog post above with the screenshot of a revised implementation that provides a slightly less ugly and demoralizing text for users&#8230; let me know if that&#8217;s indeed better.</p>
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